Comments for Affiliate Millions Discussion Board http://affiliatemillions.com/discussion-board Affiliate and Search Marketing News and Discussion Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:30:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 Comment on September 2007 Newsletter by Administrator http://affiliatemillions.com/discussion-board/2007/09/12/september-affiliate-millions-newsletter/#comment-307 Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:50:47 +0000 http://affiliatemillions.com/discussion-board/2007/09/12/september-affiliate-millions-newsletter/#comment-307 I just re-read this newsletter and thought some of you (or perhaps none of you) might be interested to know what turned out to be the culprit eating my chickens. The surprise villian turned out to be my own beloved hound dog, Chief, who was caught red-handed (or red-pawed, I guess) devouring the last of my chickens. Preventative measures have been taken (chicken coop, chicken wire, electric shock dog collar) and chickens have been successfully reintroduced to captivity on the farm. Tony I just re-read this newsletter and thought some of you (or perhaps none of you) might be interested to know what turned out to be the culprit eating my chickens.

The surprise villian turned out to be my own beloved hound dog, Chief, who was caught red-handed (or red-pawed, I guess) devouring the last of my chickens.

Preventative measures have been taken (chicken coop, chicken wire, electric shock dog collar) and chickens have been successfully reintroduced to captivity on the farm.

Tony

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Comment on Commission Junction - Quick Stats by Heartsbane http://affiliatemillions.com/discussion-board/2008/10/25/commission-junction-quick-stats/#comment-305 Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:56:11 +0000 http://affiliatemillions.com/discussion-board/2008/10/25/commission-junction-quick-stats/#comment-305 Thanks for the feedback Tony! I was hoping in this case that the Advertiser was using batch processing but looking at the detail page on CJ it says "No." I've paused my campaign for now to see if any commissions get posted over the next several days, but I'm not hopeful after reading your comments. Perhaps, as you indicate, the site isn't doing a good job of closing the deal. Thanks again for the comment - this has been a learning experience. Thanks for the feedback Tony! I was hoping in this case that the Advertiser was using batch processing but looking at the detail page on CJ it says “No.” I’ve paused my campaign for now to see if any commissions get posted over the next several days, but I’m not hopeful after reading your comments.

Perhaps, as you indicate, the site isn’t doing a good job of closing the deal.

Thanks again for the comment - this has been a learning experience.

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Comment on Commission Junction - Quick Stats by Administrator http://affiliatemillions.com/discussion-board/2008/10/25/commission-junction-quick-stats/#comment-304 Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:30:46 +0000 http://affiliatemillions.com/discussion-board/2008/10/25/commission-junction-quick-stats/#comment-304 Heartsbane, In most cases, CJ programs post conversion results within a few hours to a couple days, but there are two notable exceptions. 1. Occasional reporting delays due to system problems - This is not the likely problem, though, because you would almost certainly have been notified of any delay resulting from a problem with their reporting system. 2. Batch Processing - This could very well be your issue. Some CJ affiliate programs do not report each conversion to CJ as quickly as possible, but instead collect transaction information in batch files and send them to CJ at iregular intervals. These intervals can be weeks or even months. If you look at the program detail page, there is a batch processing field thta will say either 'yes' or 'no'. If it says 'yes' then they use batch processing, and they should have a Last Batch Processed date just below that. If the date is before your clicks, then they have not yet provided CJ with conversion information on your traffic. If the date is at least a day or two after the clicks you are questioning, than the conversions may in fact be 0%. When I started programs that I thought would do well, and realized that slow batch submissions were delaying confirmation of my campaign's success or failure, I would typically shut down the campaign and wait as long as it took for the next batch to come in and confirm the success or failure ofthe campaign. I recommend you do the same, even if your confidence level is high. Even when you send good quality traffic, there is no guarantee that the site you are sending them to is going to do a good job of closing the deal, even if its a good deal. So play it safe. Tony Heartsbane,

In most cases, CJ programs post conversion results within a few hours to a couple days, but there are two notable exceptions.

1. Occasional reporting delays due to system problems - This is not the likely problem, though, because you would almost certainly have been notified of any delay resulting from a problem with their reporting system.

2. Batch Processing - This could very well be your issue. Some CJ affiliate programs do not report each conversion to CJ as quickly as possible, but instead collect transaction information in batch files and send them to CJ at iregular intervals. These intervals can be weeks or even months. If you look at the program detail page, there is a batch processing field thta will say either ‘yes’ or ‘no’. If it says ‘yes’ then they use batch processing, and they should have a Last Batch Processed date just below that. If the date is before your clicks, then they have not yet provided CJ with conversion information on your traffic. If the date is at least a day or two after the clicks you are questioning, than the conversions may in fact be 0%.

When I started programs that I thought would do well, and realized that slow batch submissions were delaying confirmation of my campaign’s success or failure, I would typically shut down the campaign and wait as long as it took for the next batch to come in and confirm the success or failure ofthe campaign. I recommend you do the same, even if your confidence level is high.

Even when you send good quality traffic, there is no guarantee that the site you are sending them to is going to do a good job of closing the deal, even if its a good deal. So play it safe.

Tony

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Comment on New Strategies? by Administrator http://affiliatemillions.com/discussion-board/2008/10/19/new-strategies/#comment-303 Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:15:46 +0000 http://affiliatemillions.com/discussion-board/2008/10/19/new-strategies/#comment-303 Eusof, Although I would like to be able to offer additional avenues to folks who might wish to ask me questions, I find that I am already a bit slower to respond sometimes than I should be on just this one single blog. Thank you, though, for your suggestion. Tony Eusof,

Although I would like to be able to offer additional avenues to folks who might wish to ask me questions, I find that I am already a bit slower to respond sometimes than I should be on just this one single blog.

Thank you, though, for your suggestion.

Tony

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Comment on Direct Linking…hard to find! by Administrator http://affiliatemillions.com/discussion-board/2008/07/25/direct-linkinghard-to-find/#comment-301 Fri, 17 Oct 2008 00:47:05 +0000 http://affiliatemillions.com/discussion-board/2008/07/25/direct-linkinghard-to-find/#comment-301 I would certainly try it. If you really wind up paying 40 to 60 cents per click, you'd have to convert somewher around 10% of your clicks to slaes (which isn't realistic), but I have good news too... The top ads for those searches are probably paying WAY less than that. If you focus like a laser beam on your ad text, you should be able to get your CPC way below 40 cents. You won't know how low you need to get it until you see how the clicks convert, but that is what you need to focus on... Lowering cost and improving volume by writing better and better ads. By the way, I like Google's traffic estimator and keyword suggestion tools, but you can get a lot more detail from a paid service like <a title="http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-1534322-10446203" href="http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-1534322-10446203">KeyCompete.com</a> , and it won't cost you much, either. I made a lot of money before I ever discovered these guys, so you don't NEED them, but in today's tougher market the edge they can give you might make the difference. Tony I would certainly try it.

If you really wind up paying 40 to 60 cents per click, you’d have to convert somewher around 10% of your clicks to slaes (which isn’t realistic), but I have good news too… The top ads for those searches are probably paying WAY less than that. If you focus like a laser beam on your ad text, you should be able to get your CPC way below 40 cents.

You won’t know how low you need to get it until you see how the clicks convert, but that is what you need to focus on… Lowering cost and improving volume by writing better and better ads.

By the way, I like Google’s traffic estimator and keyword suggestion tools, but you can get a lot more detail from a paid service like KeyCompete.com , and it won’t cost you much, either. I made a lot of money before I ever discovered these guys, so you don’t NEED them, but in today’s tougher market the edge they can give you might make the difference.

Tony

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Comment on Software Tools… by Administrator http://affiliatemillions.com/discussion-board/2008/09/08/software-tools/#comment-300 Fri, 17 Oct 2008 00:35:46 +0000 http://affiliatemillions.com/discussion-board/2008/09/08/software-tools/#comment-300 The best book I have read on SEO is;  <a title="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0875730884?ie=UTF8&tag=charitydepot-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0875730884" href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0875730884?ie=UTF8&tag=charitydepot-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0875730884">Insider Seo & Ppc: Get Your Website to the Top of the Search Engines</a> The best book I have read on SEO is;

 Insider Seo & Ppc: Get Your Website to the Top of the Search Engines

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Comment on Still Valid? by Administrator http://affiliatemillions.com/discussion-board/2008/10/04/still-valid-2/#comment-299 Fri, 17 Oct 2008 00:28:23 +0000 http://affiliatemillions.com/discussion-board/2008/10/04/still-valid-2/#comment-299 RReglus, Since my book's release, it has become increasingly difficult to make money using just direct search, but I would say that a modest goal of $2k to $3k per month is still quite possible without directing users to a website of your own. You might still find it is necessary to have a basic website, though, because even 'search marketing friendly' companies like <a title="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0875730884?ie=UTF8&tag=charitydepot-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0875730884" href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0875730884?ie=UTF8&tag=charitydepot-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0875730884">Amazon</a> do not always have 'search marketing friendly' applications, and a website is often a required field on applications. You can find plenty of inexpensive and/or free help developing a simple site at <a href="http://www.affiliatemillions.com/">www.AffiliateMillions.com</a> Good Luck, Tony RReglus,

Since my book’s release, it has become increasingly difficult to make money using just direct search, but I would say that a modest goal of $2k to $3k per month is still quite possible without directing users to a website of your own.

You might still find it is necessary to have a basic website, though, because even ’search marketing friendly’ companies like Amazon do not always have ’search marketing friendly’ applications, and a website is often a required field on applications.

You can find plenty of inexpensive and/or free help developing a simple site at www.AffiliateMillions.com

Good Luck,

Tony

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Comment on Direct Linking…hard to find! by internal_calm http://affiliatemillions.com/discussion-board/2008/07/25/direct-linkinghard-to-find/#comment-298 Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:59:18 +0000 http://affiliatemillions.com/discussion-board/2008/07/25/direct-linkinghard-to-find/#comment-298 Hi Tony I've been looking at google, their traffic estimator and their keyword search. Let's say you did a search for dinner plates. You got 2 million results. Now you go to the google key word search tool to get ideas. Dinner plates gets you a result of 500,000 and a shaded bar that is full under the advertiser competition column. A little further down, you get a key word called green dinner plates. The advertiser competition bar is only a quarter way full and the voume coumn is at 60,000. The traffic estimator says on average you might get 2 - 3 clicks a day. The estimated cpc is 40 to 60 cents and the estimated ad positions are 1 - 3. The cost of the plates are in the $30 to $60 range and the advertiser is offering 10% on each sale. Would you place an add on google with these numbers in mind??? Thanks kindly internal_calm Hi Tony

I’ve been looking at google, their traffic estimator and their keyword search.

Let’s say you did a search for dinner plates. You got 2 million results. Now you go to the google key word search tool to get ideas. Dinner plates gets you a result of 500,000 and a shaded bar that is full under the advertiser competition column. A little further down, you get a key word called green dinner plates. The advertiser competition bar is only a quarter way full and the voume coumn is at 60,000. The traffic estimator says on average you might get 2 - 3 clicks a day. The estimated cpc is 40 to 60 cents and the estimated ad positions are 1 - 3. The cost of the plates are in the $30 to $60 range and the advertiser is offering 10% on each sale. Would you place an add on google with these numbers in mind???

Thanks kindly

internal_calm

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Comment on Software Tools… by internal_calm http://affiliatemillions.com/discussion-board/2008/09/08/software-tools/#comment-297 Fri, 10 Oct 2008 06:56:05 +0000 http://affiliatemillions.com/discussion-board/2008/09/08/software-tools/#comment-297 This is for anyone. I'm a newbie here. It looks like many of us now have to build landing pages for our ads. Some of these pages could be around for a long time. Especially if you're promoting long terms ideas, like digital cameras, travel, education...etc. As opposed to short term items like halloween costumes or valentine's day chocolates. If that's the case, does anyone have the short on seo. I'v just started looking at it. Lots of info out there, and lots of gurus. Some say it's a long process, 6 months to a year and others say it can happen alost over night. Any affiliate marketers here with some long term experience? Any imput would be greatly appreciated. Cheers to all and happy marketing. internal_calm This is for anyone.

I’m a newbie here.

It looks like many of us now have to build landing pages for our ads. Some of these pages could be around for a long time. Especially if you’re promoting long terms ideas, like digital cameras, travel, education…etc. As opposed to short term items like halloween costumes or valentine’s day chocolates. If that’s the case, does anyone have the short on seo. I’v just started looking at it. Lots of info out there, and lots of gurus. Some say it’s a long process, 6 months to a year and others say it can happen alost over night.

Any affiliate marketers here with some long term experience? Any imput would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers to all and happy marketing.

internal_calm

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Comment on Sign up at Amazon.co.uk by Administrator http://affiliatemillions.com/discussion-board/2008/09/26/sign-up-at-amazoncouk/#comment-295 Fri, 03 Oct 2008 17:57:44 +0000 http://affiliatemillions.com/discussion-board/2008/09/26/sign-up-at-amazoncouk/#comment-295 Tim, The wording is confusing, but I have contacted Amazon in the past to ask them about this specifically and was advised that the trademark prohibitions refers to keyword bidding, not ad text, so go ahead and use Amazon's URL. You can try to use Amazon in the rest of the ad text as well, but Google may object. Their rules these days frankly change to quickly for me to keep up with, so I can't say if they will hassle you or not, but you shouldn't have any trouble with the URL, at least, and Amazon, to the best of my knowledge, is completely Okay with you using their name for anything except keywords, and of course, advertising sites other than their own (including sites you may own to promote them, by the way). Tony Tim,

The wording is confusing, but I have contacted Amazon in the past to ask them about this specifically and was advised that the trademark prohibitions refers to keyword bidding, not ad text, so go ahead and use Amazon’s URL.

You can try to use Amazon in the rest of the ad text as well, but Google may object. Their rules these days frankly change to quickly for me to keep up with, so I can’t say if they will hassle you or not, but you shouldn’t have any trouble with the URL, at least, and Amazon, to the best of my knowledge, is completely Okay with you using their name for anything except keywords, and of course, advertising sites other than their own (including sites you may own to promote them, by the way).

Tony

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